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  • Mike Huckabee

    5 10.00%
  • John Edwards

    1 2.00%
  • Barack Obama

    27 54.00%
  • Hillary Clinton

    8 16.00%
  • John McCain

    2 4.00%
  • Rudy Giuliani

    0 0%
  • Mitt Romney

    0 0%
  • The Libertarian Sensation! Ron Paul

    7 14.00%
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Thread: Election Confection!

  1. #101
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    I don't care if his speaking style is planned or natural. I don't understand how it isn't "professional" either. Most politicians in this day and age are very boring and uninspiring. I don't understand what's wrong with the manner in which he delivers his speeches.

    Oh, and as a voting Virginian, I was pretty certain that Obama would win fairly easily, but this article from the NY Times made me feel really insecure.

    To all those voting Virginians reading this post: VOTE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseontheloose
    What happened this past weekend was big but what appears to be happening tomorrow is bigger.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chewie
    I think Obama supporters should be a lot more skeptical of Virginia and Maryland.
    Oh ye of little faith. The latest polls...
    Don't pigeonhole. Also, I don't/didn't think that he won't pull them, especially now, but I still think he had a better shot at the ones he just garnered.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chewie
    I think this parallels the style of the speech you critiqued as being too preachery and having occurred about 4 years ago, I'd say that it's not a conscious change in the choice of style.
    You do not become president without considering every aspect of your public image. To say any change is not a conscious change means it is a mistake in your presentation, and I very much doubt that Obama's, or anyone's team in this stage of the game, is dumb enough to do that.

    It's largely irrelevant anyway.

    Watch the first three minutes of the[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCLomrqIN8] DNC speech[/ame] and the [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS94D2tmPYo]Super Tuesday[/ame] speech again. If you don't see a difference, I don't know what else to tell you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niro
    I don't care if his speaking style is planned or natural. I don't understand how it isn't "professional" either. Most politicians in this day and age are very boring and uninspiring. I don't understand what's wrong with the manner in which he delivers his speeches.
    It's only relatively "unprofessional" relative to how he has presented himself in the past (see videos). He's doing this because this is what he thinks will help him present the best image possible. There is nothing "wrong" with that, it's just a different way to approach the game. But again, it's fairly minute, I feel, in the grand scheme of things.

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    Looking at the first three minutes of the speeches, I understand what you're saying, but I still maintain that the recent speaking style of Obama is used more to speak over the crowd than anything else and that changes later in the DNC speech. But, as far as political debates and deciding on candidates goes, this probably counts as a bull**** issue so I'll move on.

    As far as Virginia and Maryland go, I felt that Virginia would probably be a lock from the beginning; partially because of Obama's dominance of the South and partially because every Virginia Democrat or note other than Thomas Jefferson endorsed Obama. I never considered Maryland a lock; however, using Deleware as a barometer of where it would vote, I considered Obama's chances to be fairly decent.

    Looking ahead, I think that Obama probably will come out of February sweeping every non Super Tuesday state. After today, the only two states left for the month for the Democrats are Hawaii and Wisconsin. Obama's a native Hawaiian so that shouldn't be a problem, and, for Wisconsin, just look at the states it borders. Iowa, Illinois, and Minnesota all share a sizeable border with Wisconsin and all went overwhelmingly Obama. The big March primaries, Texas and Ohio, are still too far away to really be able to predict, but I think we can predict who will have the momentum going into those pivotal races.
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    Obama and McCain got a clean sweep today. Maryland, DC, and Virginia made very clear that these two make very good parallels.

    Current thing pissing me off though? Super Delegates. It's like they have some awesome superpowers that make them amazing delegates. Truth be told, they are a bar to the American democratic system (ironic for Democrats, no?). All Super delegates represent is pure cronyism. As long as we have people like this set up, all those who are trying to break out of the boundaries are going to be cut short.

    And all of these delegates are lining up for Clinton. Obama is actually browbeating her but those stupid super delegates are making this a closer race than it should be. It's disgusting and corrupt politics that are screwing us over as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseontheloose
    Obama's momentum
    Absolutely. I think Hillary should be in red alert mode right now. Nothing is indicating that she's going to pull ahead and Obama is big train runnin' full of momentum.

    All Super delegates represent is pure cronyism. As long as we have people like this set up, all those who are trying to break out of the boundaries are going to be cut short.
    Yeah, I read an article on CNN a few days ago (but can't find it now), where a couple of superdelegates stated themselves that they didn't agree with the idea of their position.

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    Bill Clinton is a superdelegate. That's all you need to know. The husband of a presidential candidate has the power to over-rule hundreds of citizens voices in a fell swoop.

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    Is Bill Clinton REALLY a superdelegate?
    I know Bill Richardson is...but Bill Clinton? Now you're gonna make me go research and stuff. I just looked it up and I can't believe he is. That's rediculous.

    All I really have to say is BARACK THE VOTE PEOPLE. =]

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    Speaking of Baracking the vote, how about that Wisconsin? Hillary now has to win both Texas and Ohio to stay alive. I think she'll take Ohio handily but Texas could give her some more trouble than she anticipated.

    But on the youtube front, I have one music video for each of the three campaigns. First the undeniably amazing video by Will I Am [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY] Yes We Can[/ame] Then there's the spoof video made for John McCain [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs]John He Is[/ame]. Then there's the Hillary Campaign's video
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no]Hillary4U&me[/ame]. I'll let you decide for yourself, but I'll give you one of the lyrics, "Our world is getting hot/ but our global warming policy is not,"

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    I don't think that Hillary will win Ohio as handily as you think. Its a dead tie in polls and thats the same way it was for WI. Obama has just been eating away at Clinton's base. It's too early to tell and it may stay too close to tell right up to the primiaries. But I think Obama has the advantage right now.
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    Nirorsriver, you could be, and I hope you are right. Obama's got all kind of momentum right now, and Hillary's strategy is reminiscent of that which failed for Giuliani. Watching the video "Yes We Can," made me realize something. Obama has the ability to have such a broad appeal that, for the first time since the Reagen era, we may have a president popular enough to truly change politics. Someone who will have an opportunity to make a real impact on this nation. Whether or not he'll be able to get to the point where he'll be able act on this (ie: the White House) remains to be seen as does whether he can truly enact new policies, but one thing is for certain: with Obama we have opportunity. We have that very thing which he always reminds us is so important, hope.
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