What's the Best TV News Network?

[Its Alive]

Best television news network.

[Jake Patterson]

The Daily Show is the place I turn to, even though I know most of it is malarkey. Jon Stewart just brings a great sense of objectivity to all of his stories, since he makes fun of everyone and anything. But I can tell he doesn't like Bush, which is always a plus for me when trying to find some good news coverage.

[DCdisco]

FOX NEWS WINS!!!!!!

[CAforensics]

Fox news isnt news...its an editorial
YOU NEED BBC ON THE POLL THE MOST BALANCED NEWS

[DCdisco]

Fox news isnt news...its an editorial
YOU NEED BBC ON THE POLL THE MOST BALANCED NEWS

Oh really? Considering its a 24-hour newsstation, I'd say that there isn't enough news to fill that timespan, thus, creating the need for editorial programs.

Fox News........FAIR AND BALANCED :lol:

[This is not Jenn]

Fox News........FAIR AND BALANCED :lol:

That is the silliest thing I saw all day!

I say that this is a flawed question because there is no such thing as an unbiased news network human nature prevents this. We always are trying to express our views. It even happens on the Daily Show, when Steven Colbert host he flat out said "we are all democrats here" and most of thier politcal guests are democrat. Also, BBC news is biased becuase they hate Bush, Blair and the Iraqi war and it comes through in the articles. Fox News is biased towards Bush this is why they were the only News Network allowed to cover the G-8 Summit if Bush's camp thought they were gonna shed bad light on Bush they wouldnt have gotten the contract.
So yea this question is flawed!

So I vote Cheese.

-jenn

[DCdisco]

FAIR AND BALANCED is Fox News' slogan.

Also, this thread isn't about who is the most unbiased..........just who is the best news network.

[This is not Jenn]

*feels stoopid*

I choose JNN Jennifer News Network.

[chrispac]

screw that, fox news is right liek a right hand turn. its so far right that its not even wrong. its east of eden right

[CAforensics]

the funniest thing i have ever read in my life was on o'reilly's website at fox where it is proclaimed the "NO SPIN ZONE" and right next to that is an advertisement saying BUY YOUR GEORGE W. BUSH HAT TODAY AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT TO RE-ELECT OUR PRESIDENT

[DCdisco]

I'd buy a Bush hat.........

in fact, i just handmade a BUSH/CHENEY poster for my boyfriends dorm room window :lol:

[CAforensics]

you're not getting my point are you... or are you being like most republicans denying the truth?

[DCdisco]

No, i just choose to ignore liberals :lol: makes my world just peachy 8)

[CAforensics]

you're not doing a good job at it seeing as you're responding to everyone of my posts

[DCdisco]

i was simply stating my viewpoint. i don't take anything they have to offer or say to heart, because they're all a bunch of dreamers and idiots. They think they can set up all these programs that will "help" the nation.....yes, abortion.....that's cool. NOT. do the crime, pay the time. unless under extenuating circumstances like rape. just because you f'ed up doesn't give you the right to kill someone because you were careless and irresponsible. or welfare.......hmm......go get a job? don't even get me started on welfare. even the war in iraq. you oppose it. ****, ok Bush was given bad intelligence. but i think it is more than worth it if 30 americans die, versus how many thousands of innocent people in Iraq. we got rid of saddam. he was the modern day Hitler. We got rid of Hitler and look how good that turned out. We could have been under German or Japanese rule. BUT WE ARE NOT. because Americans then had the type of patriotism that isn't always around nowadays. they were WILLING to sacrifice their lives for their freedoms and to protect their country. Americans nowadays are pansies half the time. We think we're better than everyone. we shouldn't have to die. BUT IRAQIS SHOULD? People, getting rid of saddam along was enough to substantiate Bush going to war. And with these terrorists that are beheading people..........and like, the Philippines pulling out.........WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE DOES THAT SEND???? That they can get their way.....because people like the Philippinos are chicken $#!+. And that isn't fair to the rest of the people fighting over there. We are trying to save lives. Yes, tragedies occur. Yes, Americans soldiers have been killed shamelessly. But we took away dictatorial powers from one of the most evil people to live in the last 80 years.

In short.......liberals have a few screws loose. They are dreamers that will never have a perfect-enough society. They don't think in-depth enough to discover that HEY! half of what they propose will never work.

At least we conservatives have our heads on straight.

And that is the end of that.

[CAforensics]

in response to your abortion statement i would agree to the fact that only 3% of the abortions each year are needed (where either the mother or the child would die) and that is one of the issues i dont agree on with the democratic party....however, i do believe that with the war in iraq it wouldve been perfectly fine if our reason was to remove sadaam and not to find wmd's cuz remember thats what we told the international community, i wouldve been okay with it if he said look hes a dictator so im going to remove him because hes a ruthless dicatator.... and if we really want to get rid of ruthless dictators/regimes i think we aught to look at Saudi Arabia aswell, why is it that what they do is okay? In Saudi Arabia you get your hand cut off for stealing anything even if its bread.....to say thats not ruthless is kinda f'ed up....and yes weve given "sovereignty" to the iraqis but is it really sovereign when they have to live in fear of these terrorists who are beheading innocent civilians? I think the war couldve been handled in a better way, and even if bush did look at faulty intelligence...his administration was still trying to push the idea of war with the UN and was still asking the CIA to dig up more dirt and whatnot.... now to welfare.... i think its a good deed to help out the needy cuz sharing is caring and caring is FUN jk... but welfare i think should be given for a few months until that person can find a job, i by no means think that the democratic party has everything right, but i do believe if we strive for a perfect society, we will get closer to it.... and although there may be a few screws loose with liberals and the democratic party there are many more loose screws on the other end of the spectrum....but i wont get started cuz im hungry

[DCdisco]

You are quite the conservative liberal........lol.

But how about we just agree to disagree?

[CAforensics]

hey my profile suggest im a conservative liberal lol....
i agree to disagree

[chrispac]

War on Iraq:
I still oppose it. although YES it is great that Sadaam is gone, there was no reason why we had to invade unilaterally, and with such haste. It is the ignition of the war so early with such little intelligence that we lost many American soldiers, and don't say us liberals don't care about the soldiers who die in Iraq, we sympathize for them and encourage them to fight for the country, but on the other hand we feel sad they had to go in with such haste, and also without the help of other nations. Getting rid of Saddam should have been a multilateral objective, if this was so then the War on Iraq would be completely justified, but because of Bush and his narrow minded decision of abusing our very powerful/impressive military ourselves, NO, this war should not have happened. Plus, Rumsfeld's ****ty "small special operations" which Bush loved as opposed to Powell's more logical/probable "large assault+overwhelming force." Result? Death of many MORE americans, and there wasn't even an exit plan.

Abortion:
Based completely on morals, and how I was raised, and my own personal values, I would have to say that I am totally anti-abortion. However, if you look at it in a universal arena, I would say it is a logical solution (sorry, I am basically arguing against my own principles, but I do consider the liberal standpoint somewhat justifiable). First of all (as heartless as it may seem) POPULATION control... Those girls didn't want the baby in the first place, it would just cause overflow... Second: I would HATE to be an "accident", Please, it is sad enough to see a teenage mother struggle to support her child when she must make sacrifices and deviations from her normal life, but its even sadder when the kid is devoid of a normal lifestyle, proably ending up less loved and much at a disadvantage compared to other kids.

and i am somewhat a conservative liberal as well.

[CAforensics]

the best way to remove sadaam wouldve been if there was a movement within iraq that did it, it wouldve been the best way cuz it wouldnt hurt the us, and the coallition or hurt the iraqis as much

[chrispac]

do you actually think a regime change UNDER the rule of sadaam was possible? "oh hey, lets rise up and revolt against saddam without help from any outside nations, that should be easy..."
saddam: "kill them *****es, kill them all!!!!"

NO... not really.

[CAforensics]

its by no means the quickest way of removing a regime but if you do recall that was the us policy (for the most part) towards iraq during the clinton administration

[Trey]

I won't engage in the big discussion because I don't want to step on anyone's toes. I would just say that even though i havent read it all, I probably agree mostly with disco. But back to the news networks, Fox News wins handsdown. All of the other networks are so liberal that it makes Fox's fair and balanced style look like it is pro-republican! IT ISN'T!


CONSERVATIVES ROCK!

[kungfuhampster]

ok first of all i would like to say that the way it is for liberals and conservatives is that they all think that their side is better than the other side and that the other side is crazy and that they suck.....
ok now with that over with..

i myself am more liberal and pro-choice than other people in this forum.
i do not oppose the war in iraq i just oppose how it was fought and why we fought it. We were the majority of the troops that went in to iraq. We should have been more equal in troops with other nations. We also went into iraq with the notion that they had WMD's and now their saying we went in to liberate the iraqi people. But now we know that there are other nations such as iran and north korea who we know have WMDs. And what about isreal and palestine that is the longest war ever, shouldn't we step in more to end it? And in sudan Mass genocide is taking place by the government like in hitler's time
Now that i have gotten back to the notion of hitler, he was part of an axis of evil that consisted of Germany,Italy and japan. Hitler was invading many other coutries so we sent some our troops to help our allies. Then in december we are attacked by japan and THAT is the reason we were in WORLD WAR II

OK back to the issues,
ABORTION- i belive in pro choice except in cases of late in the pregnacy unless if the baby was born both mother and infant would die. Why take two lives instead of just one?i also belive that we should not write prejudice into any law of america by instituting a gay marriage ban i also want to keep my overtime pay

All in all its like this
LIBERALS-pro-choice and like to help people at every turn by using government resources- oppose war(oppose war in iraq,abortion ban and gay marriage ban)
CONSERVATIVES-dont like change and very patriotic pro-economy(pro war in iraq abortion ban and gay marriage ban)

oh yeah and comedy central kicks ***!

[veronica]

hahah! you are right about.


Oh yeah and Comedy Central does rock!

[Gordon]

Fox News. We Decide, You Concur.

[Its Alive]

Anyone who thinks that the media is liberal and Fox News is not conservative is:

1) Lying to himself
2) Misinformed
3) A Bush propaganda bandwagoner

My one-and-a-half cents.

[Jake Patterson]

Personally, I love the Christian news networks. They not biased, no sir. But honestly, every one of them is bias. You just need to know how to sort out the facts from the talking, floating heads screaming at each other.

[Chewie]

These kind of posts make me sad for America.


i was simply stating my viewpoint. i don't take anything they have to offer or say to heart, because they're all a bunch of dreamers and idiots. They think they can set up all these programs that will "help" the nation.....yes, abortion.....that's cool. NOT. do the crime, pay the time. unless under extenuating circumstances like rape. just because you f'ed up doesn't give you the right to kill someone because you were careless and irresponsible.

When someone casts a generalizing shadow over a group, then that destroys all individuality of any person who considers themselves a part of that group. What if there's an individual who is against abortion AND the death penalty? What if there's an individual who believes in equal mutiple-class tax cuts AND agrees with invading Iraq? Is that person a liberal or a conservative?

They're probably just an individual.

It is impossible to condense all our individual moral and ethical into a single political party, because we all have difference influences that generate different moral and ethical codes. Hence, qualifying a group of people as dreamers or idiots just because they lean towards a certain political affliation is completely unfair to that individual.

Not all self-proclaimed "liberals" support abortion, just as not all self-proclaimed "conservatives" believe invading Iraq was the right thing. No one group, of millions of people, can be boiled down to a bunch of "dreamers and idiots". Was FDR a dreamer and idiot for bringing about the New Deal? Was Clinton a dreamer and idiot for giving us an actual economic surplus?

Well, they were liberals...so I guess so. Dumbass Presidents.


or welfare.......hmm......go get a job? don't even get me started on welfare. even the war in iraq. you oppose it. ****, ok Bush was given bad intelligence. but i think it is more than worth it if 30 americans die, versus how many thousands of innocent people in Iraq. we got rid of saddam.
Let's address this point by point:
---Welfare...getting a job...I refer you to the final stanza of this song. (http://www.lyricstop.com/u/underweargoesinsidethepants-lazyboy.html) I'm assuming, since you have internet access and are part of a forensics team, that you have never lived in a poverty-level household. I'm assuming that you have access to basic amenities and knowledge of your rights as a citizen and potential employee. Many people do not. And many people may even...HAVE JOBS?! IMAGINE THAT! They were actually GIVEN jobs that don't COVER THESE BASIC EXPENSES! Sorry if I think it's a bad idea to support them so that your local CEO can only have 2 lbs. of caviar a meal.
---War In Iraq. Again, not all liberals oppose it. Just like not all conservatives carry shotguns and become aroused at the theme from Deliverance. That's a generalization and an insult.
---30 Americans die, vs. 1000's of innocents in Iraq? I'm not sure what this means or where your numbers are coming from. But just for a fact check...at least 14,548 Iraqi civilians are dead. (http://www.iraqbodycount.net/) And 1,231 American deaths to date. (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/)
In case you we referring to 9/11, over 3,000 American lives were lost in the terrorist attacks.


he was the modern day Hitler. We got rid of Hitler and look how good that turned out. We could have been under German or Japanese rule. BUT WE ARE NOT. because Americans then had the type of patriotism that isn't always around nowadays. they were WILLING to sacrifice their lives for their freedoms and to protect their country.

Yeah, now they're sacrificing their lives so we can invade soverign nations that had absolutely no means of attacking us.


Americans nowadays are pansies half the time.

Yep, I set my Pansy watch at 6:00 AM to 6:00 PM every evening, to make sure I don't get in trouble throughout the day.


We think we're better than everyone. we shouldn't have to die. BUT IRAQIS SHOULD? People, getting rid of saddam along was enough to substantiate Bush going to war.

You say this as though the War in Iraq is not responsible for deaths as well. Again...at least 14,548 Iraqi civilians are dead. (http://www.iraqbodycount.net/)

Hey, nobody liked Sadaam, at least, not for the past 20 years. He's captured and everyone is quite happy with that. And you know what, let's just ignore that Iraq was a soverign nation. We'll pretend that didn't even matter.

Bush and his administration told us, and Congress, that Iraq had WMDs. THAT is why we went to war. NOT to eliminate Sadaam Hussein. Congress voted to take police action under Iraq under the impression that they were a threat with WMDs. And they were not.

Bush and his administration lied to us. That is why we went to Iraq. That is why we cannot pull out now. That is why FOUR TIMES AS MANY Iraqi civilians have died in this war as Americans did on 9/11.



And with these terrorists that are beheading people..........and like, the Philippines pulling out.........WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE DOES THAT SEND???? That they can get their way.....because people like the Philippinos are chicken $#!+.

You know what, I think that last sentence speaks for itself. *******.

Murder is wrong. I think most everyone can agree on that. And the beheadings are gruesome. So can you count how many hostages we've rescued from beheading from terrorists? I can. With no hands in fact, because it's zero.

Those beheadings send a **** scary message. They send a message that despite an increased sense of security, and even paranoia, around the entire world since 9/11, we still can't prevent relatively "minor" terrorist attacks. But hey, if we want to detain Cat Stevens for have a new, Islamic name, Godspeed.


And that isn't fair to the rest of the people fighting over there. We are trying to save lives. Yes, tragedies occur. Yes, Americans soldiers have been killed shamelessly. But we took away dictatorial powers from one of the most evil people to live in the last 80 years.

Well, gosh golly gee, that almost sounds, dare I say, REASONABLE! And LOGICAL!


In short.......liberals have a few screws loose.

Guess not.


They are dreamers that will never have a perfect-enough society. They don't think in-depth enough to discover that HEY! half of what they propose will never work.

Again, with the generalization and closed-mindedness. I guess FDR never thought out how to get through the Great Depression. I know Martin Luther King never thought about how to obtain civil rights for blacks. And heaven forbid Clinton ever thought about our economy. Those things must have just happened, because those silly liberals can't THINK of anything themselves.


At least we conservatives have our heads on straight.
And that is the end of that.

Yep. It is. All of America agrees...all 51% of the voting populace...that...is the end of that.

[Chewie]

All of the other networks are so liberal that it makes Fox's fair and balanced style look like it is pro-republican! IT ISN'T!


CONSERVATIVES ROCK!

Trey, have you seen Outfoxed?

[Chewie]

I win at Politics. Anyone who disagrees is a communist jew nazi.

[kungfuhampster]

no chew your starting to turn into a crazy radical republican! come back to the "dark" side!

[Chewie]

What?! How did you get that idea? I hate both sides, you wanker. :P That whole "I win at politics" comment was because I wanted to restart this thread, and maybe get Laura to respond to my total demolition of her right-wing crapaganda. (http://www.forensicsonline.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=34379#34379)

Besides, the right-wing IS the dark side. The left is the pussified, whiny side. Like if Luke Skywalker tried to defeat Vader by putting a flower on his lightsaber.

[kungfuhampster]

thank god some one who thinks the way i do! And picturing luke putting a flower on a light saber made me laugh for like 5 minutes.